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No, I am not making this up
Conversation at lunch today (paraphrased):
"So, if one Stargate was orbiting the planet in space, and the other was on a planet, and you opened a connection, how dead are we?"
"How so?"
"Using the Stargate to limit the flow, how fast will it take to reach equilibrium, between the atmosphere and vacuum? Ignoring bulkheads, doors, corridors, etc under a mountain."
"Well, it'll take time to move the atmosphere from around the planet, and the rate will slow down the thinner the atmosphere gets..."
"Don't forget that, barring being connected to a black hole or having a giant red laser aimed at the Stargate, it closes after 38 minutes."
"So, with boundary conditions of 'the plot', how much dead should we have been?"
"You know, this is actually an easy calculation. I'll get back to you on it."
"So, if one Stargate was orbiting the planet in space, and the other was on a planet, and you opened a connection, how dead are we?"
"How so?"
"Using the Stargate to limit the flow, how fast will it take to reach equilibrium, between the atmosphere and vacuum? Ignoring bulkheads, doors, corridors, etc under a mountain."
"Well, it'll take time to move the atmosphere from around the planet, and the rate will slow down the thinner the atmosphere gets..."
"Don't forget that, barring being connected to a black hole or having a giant red laser aimed at the Stargate, it closes after 38 minutes."
"So, with boundary conditions of 'the plot', how much dead should we have been?"
"You know, this is actually an easy calculation. I'll get back to you on it."
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You know, this first occurred to me during Singularity, when Sam and Daniel go through the gate hand in hand (yes, they do, Sam sort of leads him away from Jack and through the wormhole).
My very first response was to squee a bit until I gave it a moment's thought and sort of worried they'd be stuck together on the other side. Or... something, because they were touching when they went through.
It was then that I realized that people probably don't come out with exactly the same molecules they went in with. I mean, I *suppose* the 'gate could determine whose was whose by genetic marker, but why would it care?
Which led to a cracky conversation with someone, somewhere a long time go about Sam eventually gaining a penis out of her gate travel ;)
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Okay, yeah, that is cracky. :) And also hilarious.
Why am I now contemplating gate travel warning labels?
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Oh, I am VERY aware they go through hand in hand.
And I so want the crack!fic where something goes wrong and people end up stuck together!
Honestly, at an atomic/molecular level, unless they manage to track the quantum state of the electrons (which I'm not sure would be possible) there would be no way to tell whose molecule was whose. I'm actually not sure whether the 'gate converts matter-energy, transports it as energy, then converts the energy back to matter on the other side (if so, wow) or sends a stream of atoms (which seems HARD) or just sends the pattern and re-creates them on the other side with atoms from the other side (maybe the 'gate stores atoms....hmm...could we program this to re-materialize someone, say, without a tumor?)
(or maybe I'm making these too much like Star Trek transporters)
I think I read a fic somewhere where Sam *did* come back with a penis.
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I'm pretty sure it's impossible to track the quantum state of the electrons, what with the Uncertainty Principle and everything (unless we assume quantum mechanics is wrong, in which case, ow).
In 48 Hours, Teal'c was stuck in the buffer, which seemed to be some kind of crystal matrix, if I'm remembering the episode right. Which implies that it's just the pattern being sent.
I think I read a fic somewhere where Sam *did* come back with a penis.
I am clearly reading the wrong* fic.
*for "special" definitions of "wrong".
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unless we assume quantum mechanics is wrong, in which case, ow
I thought so too (with the impossible) and, also, OW!
Exactly about the buffer thing - which really makes the stargate a really fancy long-distance transporter rather than a wormhole, I think, maybe. Errrr
Oh, no, you're not reading the wrong fic. I remember not being very impressed by it. Though I do think it could be done *right*
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Done right, that fic could be interesting. I think.
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Hmm, I've heard that theory before somewhere. Which sort of bothers me on the level of, what if their atoms or whatever were recreated on the other side of the wormhole with weird, exotic, local atoms? They'd probably more or less *look* the same, but their bodies would be fundamentally different. That makes me think. Of course they'd be re-materialized with familiar elements when they got back, but geez, it sounds really strange for when they'd be off-planet.
Along the same lines, Sam distinctly said that Teal'c's energy 'pattern' was stored in the crystals, so yeah, it lends credence to that theory.
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I do think Jack would freak out if he knew he was made of alien atoms though :)
Though, actually, I really wonder if this could somehow have meant the radiation poisoning should have not been passed through the 'gate after Kelowna. I mean, he's not being re-assembled with the affected atoms because they wouldn't be there at SGC so...maybe Daniel should have been fine after the 'gate travel, which is extra weird to think about.
But, yeah, it's 48 Hours that makes me think matter isn't stored, which then bothers me because they're more long-range transporter than wormhole. Giant worms. Tunneling through space.
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